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Carbohydrates in the diet

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:06 am
by D.ap
Hello all
Hope this new day is bringing you good health and joy
Wanted to share an article about carbs that we had in our library of information

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3267662/
Unless we have access to a nutritionist or a well versed general practitioner ,nutrition seems to be out of picture in our fight against this unrelenting monster called ASPS

Our area has lots of NDs, natural doctors setting up practices . Unfortunely the insurance companies don't recognize them as professional legitimate doctors so it is yet another cost out of our pocket. :(

Anyway , I want to post this link on carbs for others to read so to make their own descion

Love
Debbie

Re: Josh in Kansas, Dx Sept 2012

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:28 pm
by Ivan
If that represents the pinnacle of research on the subject so far, what more could any doctor tell you about it? They can't know more .

Re: Josh in Kansas, Dx Sept 2012

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:53 am
by jenhy168
D.ap wrote:Hello all
Hope this new day is bringing you good health and joy
Wanted to share an article about carbs that we had in our library of information

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3267662/
Unless we have access to a nutritionist or a well versed general practitioner ,nutrition seems to be out of picture in our fight against this unrelenting monster called ASPS

Our area has lots of NDs, natural doctors setting up practices . Unfortunely the insurance companies don't recognize them as professional legitimate doctors so it is yet another cost out of our pocket. :(

Anyway , I want to post this link on carbs for others to read so to make their own descion

Love
Debbie

Eek, 70% of what I eat is carbs... :(

Re: Josh in Kansas, Dx Sept 2012

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:00 am
by D.ap
Hey Jen
No problem. Just adjust to the better carbs
Here's an article I found
http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG7kMF ... bohydrates
We need carbs to help our bodies 'run' correctly. When we eat right it helps 'this amazing ' machine, as Jolie so eloquently described, heal and fight at the same time

66 degrease today in our area :D
Have a good day !
Debbie

Re: Josh in Kansas, Dx Sept 2012

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:20 am
by Olga
Please use the allocated forum to discuss the diet http://www.cureasps.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=53 instead of the patient's personal data forums. It makes the reading of their history easier. Also try to stick to the proved data/evidence based recommendations from the credible sources like the Pubmed.

Re: Josh in Kansas, Dx Sept 2012

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:24 am
by Amanda
Jen, lol
I try an not eat them now.. But, i was a french bread addict before i was diagnosed :( Its true *sigh* lol



"Eek, 70% of what I eat is carbs... " Jen said...

Re: Carbohydrates in the diet

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:30 pm
by Ivan
In my opinion, there is no health reason at all to consume carbohydrates, unless you are a competitive athlete. Both proteins and omega-3 rich fats are healthier and come with less baggage.

When you eat carbs, make sure it's for taste and enjoyment only.

Re: Carbohydrates in the diet

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:58 am
by D.ap
Hey Ivan
I have not been convinced of a NO carbohydrate diet yet
However , as I am NOT a nutritionist , I found this carbohydrate article the down falls of not having enough of good carbs in your diet
http://www.livestrong.com/article/31302 ... es/#page=4

Debbie

Re: Carbohydrates in the diet

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:23 am
by Olga
Glycemic and insulinemic potential is the key, but there is a heterogeneity between the genders/diseases.
Associations of bread and pasta with the risk of cancer of the breast and colorectum.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24155133
Abstract
BACKGROUND:

Carbohydrate foods with high glycemic and insulinemic potential may influence cancer risk possibly through the insulin/growth-factor axis. Two staple carbohydrate foods of the Mediterranean diet, bread and pasta, have different glycemic and insulinemic responses and hence may affect cancer risk differently.
MATERIALS AND METHODS:

We studied the association of bread and pasta with breast and colorectal cancer risk using data from two Italian case-control studies. These studies included 2569 women with histologically confirmed breast cancer and 1953 men and women with colorectal cancer. Controls were 2588 and 4154, respectively, admitted to the same hospitals as cases for acute, non-neoplastic conditions. Multivariate odds ratios (ORs) were obtained after allowance for relevant confounding factors.
RESULTS:

The ORs of breast cancer for the highest versus the lowest quintile were 1.28 (95% confidence interval, CI: 1.03-1.58, P-trend = 0.0342) for bread and 1.07 (95% CI: 0.88-1.31, P-trend = 0.7072) for pasta. The association with bread remained virtually unchanged with postmenopause and overweight. The ORs of colorectal cancer in women for the highest versus the lowest quintile were 2.02 (95% CI: 1.46-2.80, P-trend = 0.0002) for bread and 1.37 (95% CI: 1.00-1.88, P-trend = 0.0164) for pasta. The associations remained significant only for bread in strata of menopausal status and in women with overweight. No significant associations were seen in men for either bread or pasta.
CONCLUSIONS:

Overall, these two cancer case-control studies showed stronger positive associations with bread than pasta in women, particularly if overweight, suggesting possible hormonal-related mechanisms.

Re: Carbohydrates in the diet

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:05 am
by D.ap
Thanks Olga for the article. White breads and pastas are really high in starch . With high starches plus sugar = more sugar
Whole wheat grains have some less starches so maybe they can be a choice instead of white bleached breads /pasta
The article below tells how starch breaks down to MORE sugars

http://www.livestrong.com/article/48821 ... on/#page=2

Debbie

Re: Carbohydrates in the diet

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:16 am
by D.ap
Hey all. Really good description /summary of sugars starches
http://www.carbsmart.com/whataresugars.html
Debbie

Re: Carbohydrates in the diet

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:45 pm
by D.ap
I was studying up on glycemic values on came across this description from wiklepedia
Great summary

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index

Everyone , sweet dreams

Love
Debbie