Please help about "Votrient or Methotrexate"
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:41 pm
Hello All,
First of all thanks to this web site due to it is helpful approach about this bed disease.
I have read a lot of stories and to be honestly especially good stories makes our axiology in higher.
Anyway let me tell our story and then I will have some questions. I hope you can share your comments.
My friend has a kidney and liver cancer since jan 2014. In the beginning when this was found first, it was only on kidney and the doctors took one of the kidneys with an immediate surgery. Then first chemotherapy started. At the end of it, the news were great. The controls showed that there was no cancer cell anymore it was completely cleaned. Doctors said to my friend that she would have routine controls in 3 months periods. As you can guess we all were very happy with these news. Then after 45 days from the first control which also means in the middle of control period, my friend has some pains and they were getting bigger day by day. The pains became unbelievable in a few days. She went to doctor and doctor made a scan whether there is new nodules or not. Unfortunately the results were not as we expected. There were a few nodules on kidney and liver area and 2 of them were 8x5 cm. Others were smaller. Her doctor said that this 2 cancer cell has grown up to 8 cm within 45 days which is not very normal. Then the second chemotherapy started.
In the meantime As soon as the second nodules appeared we consulted different doctors to be sure that our doctor’s way is correct. All of them had confirmed that the way is OK. That time the chemotherapy was much heavier than the first one. After it finished, the controls showed that it didn’t work and the nodules were remaining as they are in the beginning. They were again 8 cm. Only the difference was there was no pain anymore. Especially in the beginning of second chemotherapy my friend stayed with morphine bands. Up to here is what we lived up to this week.
With this bad news we again started to ask other doctors what our next step must be. Especially one of them who is very famous professor in my country gave us a different recommendation.
So we have to ways to choose.
Now our doctor, he is also a professor, thinks that our cancer cell is very aggressive by referencing it had grown up to 8 cm in 45 days. Therefore we must use an aggressive treatment. Therefore his opinion is to use methotrexate in third chemotherapy. It will take 1.5 months. He thinks it will effect to nodules faster than Votrient.
Our consultant professor opinion is to use votrient. He thinks Votrient can decrease the nodule. With votrient, the possibility of good results is higher than methotrexate can provide but it needs at least 2.5 months.
I have read a lot of stories and also I have search a lot of websites about both treatment method. I didn’t see any story that says votrient is not working. All of the stories were saying Votrient is working well. Only Mario Arevalo (cachabamba10) (by the way I would like to thank Mario with this opportunity. His writings were very helpful and in these writings there were a lot of question’s answers which I have. )
Many thanks Mario.
All of the stories were saying Votrient is working well. Only Mario said his last scan was not favorable after one year usage. In the beginning it was working. But other side albeit some people say they took good results on methotrexate, there are also a few stories which people say methotrexate is not working or useful for him/her.
Additionally you know our cancer cell is getting bigger very fast. Therefore unfortunately we don’t have time such as 2.5 months that Votrient needs if it will not work.
My questions are :
1. Do you know any story about such a cell that can be grown up so fast?
2. Please share your comments or knowledge about which treatment we should choose.
You know we are in fear, I hope we may choose the correct way.
I wish to all a healthy life.
Thank you for your time and for your replies.
Kemal B.
First of all thanks to this web site due to it is helpful approach about this bed disease.
I have read a lot of stories and to be honestly especially good stories makes our axiology in higher.
Anyway let me tell our story and then I will have some questions. I hope you can share your comments.
My friend has a kidney and liver cancer since jan 2014. In the beginning when this was found first, it was only on kidney and the doctors took one of the kidneys with an immediate surgery. Then first chemotherapy started. At the end of it, the news were great. The controls showed that there was no cancer cell anymore it was completely cleaned. Doctors said to my friend that she would have routine controls in 3 months periods. As you can guess we all were very happy with these news. Then after 45 days from the first control which also means in the middle of control period, my friend has some pains and they were getting bigger day by day. The pains became unbelievable in a few days. She went to doctor and doctor made a scan whether there is new nodules or not. Unfortunately the results were not as we expected. There were a few nodules on kidney and liver area and 2 of them were 8x5 cm. Others were smaller. Her doctor said that this 2 cancer cell has grown up to 8 cm within 45 days which is not very normal. Then the second chemotherapy started.
In the meantime As soon as the second nodules appeared we consulted different doctors to be sure that our doctor’s way is correct. All of them had confirmed that the way is OK. That time the chemotherapy was much heavier than the first one. After it finished, the controls showed that it didn’t work and the nodules were remaining as they are in the beginning. They were again 8 cm. Only the difference was there was no pain anymore. Especially in the beginning of second chemotherapy my friend stayed with morphine bands. Up to here is what we lived up to this week.
With this bad news we again started to ask other doctors what our next step must be. Especially one of them who is very famous professor in my country gave us a different recommendation.
So we have to ways to choose.
Now our doctor, he is also a professor, thinks that our cancer cell is very aggressive by referencing it had grown up to 8 cm in 45 days. Therefore we must use an aggressive treatment. Therefore his opinion is to use methotrexate in third chemotherapy. It will take 1.5 months. He thinks it will effect to nodules faster than Votrient.
Our consultant professor opinion is to use votrient. He thinks Votrient can decrease the nodule. With votrient, the possibility of good results is higher than methotrexate can provide but it needs at least 2.5 months.
I have read a lot of stories and also I have search a lot of websites about both treatment method. I didn’t see any story that says votrient is not working. All of the stories were saying Votrient is working well. Only Mario Arevalo (cachabamba10) (by the way I would like to thank Mario with this opportunity. His writings were very helpful and in these writings there were a lot of question’s answers which I have. )
Many thanks Mario.
All of the stories were saying Votrient is working well. Only Mario said his last scan was not favorable after one year usage. In the beginning it was working. But other side albeit some people say they took good results on methotrexate, there are also a few stories which people say methotrexate is not working or useful for him/her.
Additionally you know our cancer cell is getting bigger very fast. Therefore unfortunately we don’t have time such as 2.5 months that Votrient needs if it will not work.
My questions are :
1. Do you know any story about such a cell that can be grown up so fast?
2. Please share your comments or knowledge about which treatment we should choose.
You know we are in fear, I hope we may choose the correct way.
I wish to all a healthy life.
Thank you for your time and for your replies.
Kemal B.